Caught in action.
Satria Neo vs Proton Preve drag race.
Hmmm..
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08 August 2011
[Review] Works Engineering Performance Billet Camshaft Review - Part 3
Read Part 1 here.
Read Part 2 here.
Finally its time for the figures to be revealed.
*Drum rolls*
As mentioned previously, a dyno run is done before the installation of the performance camshaft so that we know roughly how much gain we will get.
This is the figure that we have prior to the installation of Works Engineering Performance camshaft.
After the dyno, the camshaft is then installed into the car as per Part 2 here.
Unfortunately, an incident happened a couple of days later.
What is it?
My engine blew while cruising home on Federal Highway.
This is where things start to get interesting and this incident deserve a post by itself.
So be patient and the story will be unfolded to you.
To cut a long story short, since the engine blew, I have no choice but to rebuild the engine again and this engine rebuilding warrant another post by itself.
The juicy details will be shared there. So once again, please be patient.
=P
After the engine is done being rebuild, it is then back on to the dyno to get a stock reading.
The process is repeated. Works Engineering Performance Camshaft is then re-fitted and this time, everything looks fine on the surface.
The performance camshaft is then allowed a grace period of 1 week to so-called "run-in".
Then its time to hook the car up on the dyno and check out the power gain.
By now, sharp eye reader will notice that something is not right somewhere.
Let me show it to you.
(I know you all are dying to know) =P
Suffice to say, the result is indeed shocking. Friends who were with me are also shocked non-the-less.
How shocking is this?
Check it out below when I overlap the stock and Works Engineering Performance Camshaft readings.
The Green line is the stock readings.
Red and Blue is the reading for Works Engineering Performance Camshaft.
Indeed a shocking result and even the tuner has nothing to say but just smile.
I too was shocked beyond words.
Power gain is almost nothing and instead I totally lost power across the entire RPM range.
Tuning was done by adjusting the cam gears and it brought no improvement. Power is still lost across the entire RPM range.
Consultation is done here and there. Phone calls are made. Views and information are exchanged but the result is still the same.
Power loss across the entire RPM range.
We then gave up and unhooked the car from the dyno.
Plans is then made to return Works Engineering Performance Camshaft for a refund.
After much hardship, time and money spent, the result at the end of the day is totally disappointing.
The performance camshaft did not function as it is supposed to.
Conclusion is?
This product fail and it failed big time.
Initial theory looks promising but when it is time to delivery, Works Engineering Performance Camshaft fall real short of its target.
My advice?
Don't even consider this product. Simple.
The after sales service from the distributor is equally horrible and disappointing.
But I'll leave the judgement to you guys. You guys decide if it is worth it.
Cheers.
Read Part 2 here.
Finally its time for the figures to be revealed.
*Drum rolls*
As mentioned previously, a dyno run is done before the installation of the performance camshaft so that we know roughly how much gain we will get.
This is the figure that we have prior to the installation of Works Engineering Performance camshaft.
After the dyno, the camshaft is then installed into the car as per Part 2 here.
Unfortunately, an incident happened a couple of days later.
What is it?
My engine blew while cruising home on Federal Highway.
This is where things start to get interesting and this incident deserve a post by itself.
So be patient and the story will be unfolded to you.
To cut a long story short, since the engine blew, I have no choice but to rebuild the engine again and this engine rebuilding warrant another post by itself.
The juicy details will be shared there. So once again, please be patient.
=P
After the engine is done being rebuild, it is then back on to the dyno to get a stock reading.
The process is repeated. Works Engineering Performance Camshaft is then re-fitted and this time, everything looks fine on the surface.
The performance camshaft is then allowed a grace period of 1 week to so-called "run-in".
Then its time to hook the car up on the dyno and check out the power gain.
By now, sharp eye reader will notice that something is not right somewhere.
Let me show it to you.
(I know you all are dying to know) =P
Suffice to say, the result is indeed shocking. Friends who were with me are also shocked non-the-less.
How shocking is this?
Check it out below when I overlap the stock and Works Engineering Performance Camshaft readings.
The Green line is the stock readings.
Red and Blue is the reading for Works Engineering Performance Camshaft.
Indeed a shocking result and even the tuner has nothing to say but just smile.
I too was shocked beyond words.
Power gain is almost nothing and instead I totally lost power across the entire RPM range.
Tuning was done by adjusting the cam gears and it brought no improvement. Power is still lost across the entire RPM range.
Consultation is done here and there. Phone calls are made. Views and information are exchanged but the result is still the same.
Power loss across the entire RPM range.
We then gave up and unhooked the car from the dyno.
Plans is then made to return Works Engineering Performance Camshaft for a refund.
After much hardship, time and money spent, the result at the end of the day is totally disappointing.
The performance camshaft did not function as it is supposed to.
Conclusion is?
This product fail and it failed big time.
Initial theory looks promising but when it is time to delivery, Works Engineering Performance Camshaft fall real short of its target.
My advice?
Don't even consider this product. Simple.
The after sales service from the distributor is equally horrible and disappointing.
But I'll leave the judgement to you guys. You guys decide if it is worth it.
Cheers.
03 August 2011
[Review] Works Engineering Performance Billet Camshaft Review - Part 2
A long delayed post on my experiences and review on this product.
So sorry for that.
Finally got my lazy ass around to post up part 2.
You can refresh your mind by viewing part 1 here.
As mentioned previously in part 1, I was hooked and decided to give this product a try in my own humble Satria Neo.
First time in my life playing with cars that I've actually change the parts inside the engine head itself.
So where else to get this thing installed?
It is done at my usual place. EA Autoworks.
As this is a first installation, we have come up with the following plan to see how much gain will this camshaft provides.
Before installing the camshaft, we will send the car for a dyno first to get a reference figure.
After installation, we will then hook the car up on a dyno again and then the power output.
An appointment is then made to get this thing installed on to my car.
As planned, a dyno run is made first at GT Auto in Sunway.
Sorry figure will not be disclosed for now.
Then it is off to EA Autoworks for the installation.
Drove the car into the reserved area and work begins almost immediately.
The engine mounting is removed to gain access to the crank pulley.
Loosening the crank pulley.
Cam cover removed.
Spark plug cables removed and time to loosen the engine head.
Removing the placeholder of my intake kit.
Engine head removed.
Head bolts require removing before the camshaft can be taken out.
Head bolts gone.
Taking out the stock camshaft.
Camshaft gone !! The hydraulic tappets as seen here.
Inserting the exhaust part of the camshaft. Looking sexy eh?
Intake and exhaust camshaft installed and being lubricated.
Head bolts being placed back on.
Tightening the head bolts in place.
Lubricating the head bolts.
Checking the head bolts.
Engine head cover back on. Moment of truth is getting nearer.
Spark plug cables being put back in place.
Cam gears back in its rightful place.
Checking all connection.
Tightening the engine head back in place.
Tightening the crank pulley.
The camshaft is then tuned using the adjustable cam gears that I already had installed a long time ago. The cam is then tuned accordingly until a smooth idling is achieved.
After everything is done.
Everything looks fine and dandy right?
Now its time for the million dollar question.
What is the gain like?
This my dear readers, will be made known in part 3 where the full experienced of this product in whole shall be revealed.
Stop the guess work. It has been revealed.
Part 3 here.
So sorry for that.
Finally got my lazy ass around to post up part 2.
You can refresh your mind by viewing part 1 here.
As mentioned previously in part 1, I was hooked and decided to give this product a try in my own humble Satria Neo.
First time in my life playing with cars that I've actually change the parts inside the engine head itself.
So where else to get this thing installed?
It is done at my usual place. EA Autoworks.
As this is a first installation, we have come up with the following plan to see how much gain will this camshaft provides.
Before installing the camshaft, we will send the car for a dyno first to get a reference figure.
After installation, we will then hook the car up on a dyno again and then the power output.
An appointment is then made to get this thing installed on to my car.
As planned, a dyno run is made first at GT Auto in Sunway.
Sorry figure will not be disclosed for now.
Then it is off to EA Autoworks for the installation.
Drove the car into the reserved area and work begins almost immediately.
The engine mounting is removed to gain access to the crank pulley.
Loosening the crank pulley.
Cam cover removed.
Spark plug cables removed and time to loosen the engine head.
Removing the placeholder of my intake kit.
Engine head removed.
Head bolts require removing before the camshaft can be taken out.
Head bolts gone.
Taking out the stock camshaft.
Camshaft gone !! The hydraulic tappets as seen here.
Inserting the exhaust part of the camshaft. Looking sexy eh?
Intake and exhaust camshaft installed and being lubricated.
Head bolts being placed back on.
Tightening the head bolts in place.
Lubricating the head bolts.
Checking the head bolts.
Engine head cover back on. Moment of truth is getting nearer.
Spark plug cables being put back in place.
Cam gears back in its rightful place.
Checking all connection.
Tightening the engine head back in place.
Tightening the crank pulley.
The camshaft is then tuned using the adjustable cam gears that I already had installed a long time ago. The cam is then tuned accordingly until a smooth idling is achieved.
After everything is done.
Everything looks fine and dandy right?
Now its time for the million dollar question.
What is the gain like?
This my dear readers, will be made known in part 3 where the full experienced of this product in whole shall be revealed.
Stop the guess work. It has been revealed.
Part 3 here.
22 March 2011
[Review] Works Engineering Performance Billet Camshaft Review - Part 1
What is a billet camshaft?
Billet Camshaft is made from a semi finish solid metal form.
In theory, an engine camshaft if made from billet, it will give very good high-end performance if fitted to an engine.
With a billet camshaft, a manufacturer will be able to determine exactly when the opening and closing of the valve will be, how long the duration of the lift will be and last but not least, how much will the overlap be.
Keeping in mind the above, depending on how the billet camshaft is profiled, the performance will vary.
Google will be your best friend to read up on more details.
The product that we will be reviewing today will be non other then Works Engineering Performance Billet Camshaft.
Which is a Proton Satria Neo.
They, Works Engineering, even purchased a Proton Satria Neo for their product development purposes, as seen in the pictures below.
How is this Works Engineering Performance Billet Camshaft different from others out there in the market?
Take some time to study the information below.
Below is the information with regards to the diagram above.
Works Billet Cam:
base circle 36mm (same with stock cam), lobe lift 10.6mm (1.1mm higher than stock cam), broad nose, curve flank, short ramp.
Brand M reground Cam:
base circle 34mm (2mm smaller than stock cam), lobe lift 9.5mm (same with stock cam), sharp nose, flat flank, long ramp.
Finally, the diagram below shows the difference between stock camshaft, regrind camshaft and billet camshaft.
Part 2 here.
Part 3 here.
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Note:
Picture and technical information credits to Drex Chan of EA Autoworks.
Billet Camshaft is made from a semi finish solid metal form.
In theory, an engine camshaft if made from billet, it will give very good high-end performance if fitted to an engine.
With a billet camshaft, a manufacturer will be able to determine exactly when the opening and closing of the valve will be, how long the duration of the lift will be and last but not least, how much will the overlap be.
Keeping in mind the above, depending on how the billet camshaft is profiled, the performance will vary.
Google will be your best friend to read up on more details.
The product that we will be reviewing today will be non other then Works Engineering Performance Billet Camshaft.
Why this particular brand?
Because Works Engineering has been developing products particularly for this specific car model which coincide with the car that I am driving now.
Which is a Proton Satria Neo.
They, Works Engineering, even purchased a Proton Satria Neo for their product development purposes, as seen in the pictures below.
Initial assessment of the performance camshaft by people in the automotive industry is very positive based on the specification of the camshaft itself.
How is this Works Engineering Performance Billet Camshaft different from others out there in the market?
Take some time to study the information below.
Diagram shows 61 degrees of overlap which in theory will translate to a very rev-happy engine.
Image above shows the different part of a camshaft.
Below is the information with regards to the diagram above.
Works Billet Cam:
base circle 36mm (same with stock cam), lobe lift 10.6mm (1.1mm higher than stock cam), broad nose, curve flank, short ramp.
Brand M reground Cam:
base circle 34mm (2mm smaller than stock cam), lobe lift 9.5mm (same with stock cam), sharp nose, flat flank, long ramp.
Finally, the diagram below shows the difference between stock camshaft, regrind camshaft and billet camshaft.
Too much technical information to digest?
Me too.
But I will be glad to introduce someone to you who can explain everything clearly to you.
Anyway, from the above technical detail and description of Works Engineering Performance Billet Camshaft, everything sounds and looks good on paper right?
It has all the right specification at the right place, all chart and graph shows that it is superior in every way.
Now for the million dollar question, how will the real world performance be?
Part 3 here.
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Note:
Picture and technical information credits to Drex Chan of EA Autoworks.
21 March 2011
[Preview] Works Engineering Performance Billet Camshaft Review... Coming Soon !!
09 February 2011
[Preview] Works Engineering Performance Billet Camshaft
A preview is coming up soon on this.
Picture credits to Drex Chan of EA Autoworks.
SPOILER !!
I finally got this product out from my car.
My car felt very much livelier now and more eager to go all across the REV range.
Stay tuned.....
Picture credits to Drex Chan of EA Autoworks.
SPOILER !!
I finally got this product out from my car.
My car felt very much livelier now and more eager to go all across the REV range.
Stay tuned.....
30 January 2011
27 December 2010
12 December 2010
Private Track Day
Had a "private" track day at SIC for the whole of today's afternoon.
Why "private"?
Because I literally have the whole track to myself.
Was invited for this by one of my club members and I somewhat agree to go with the condition, if there is no traffic I will participate.
When I arrive at the track today, there is not a single soul to be seen and I quickly pay up and jump into my car and then bring it out on the track.
It was a very fun session except for the horrible time of 3:04s that I posted.
My personal best is 2:55s
Maybe I am not being serious or I am out of touch lately?
Hmmm....
More about this later as I am so damn tired now after an eventful day.
Adios !!
Why "private"?
Because I literally have the whole track to myself.
Was invited for this by one of my club members and I somewhat agree to go with the condition, if there is no traffic I will participate.
When I arrive at the track today, there is not a single soul to be seen and I quickly pay up and jump into my car and then bring it out on the track.
It was a very fun session except for the horrible time of 3:04s that I posted.
My personal best is 2:55s
Maybe I am not being serious or I am out of touch lately?
Hmmm....
More about this later as I am so damn tired now after an eventful day.
Adios !!
10 December 2010
Some hope?
Finally managed to meet up with them.
The meeting almost go south. Luckily I am able to think before I act. Previously, I would have turn the whole place upside down.
The rational me manages to work out something with them in order for this problem to be solve.
As this saturday is a public holiday, they agreed to tune the car next week.
A test run on a dyno dynamics dyno machine earlier shows a peak output of 122 HP which translated to about 125 PS.
Hmmm.. but something inside me is not feeling right. Felt like something is gonna happen but I don't know what.
Should I just take out this cams and forget about it or give them a chance to prove it to me?
Hmmm...
Decisions decisions decisions...
The meeting almost go south. Luckily I am able to think before I act. Previously, I would have turn the whole place upside down.
The rational me manages to work out something with them in order for this problem to be solve.
As this saturday is a public holiday, they agreed to tune the car next week.
A test run on a dyno dynamics dyno machine earlier shows a peak output of 122 HP which translated to about 125 PS.
Hmmm.. but something inside me is not feeling right. Felt like something is gonna happen but I don't know what.
Should I just take out this cams and forget about it or give them a chance to prove it to me?
Hmmm...
Decisions decisions decisions...
09 December 2010
WTF..
The tacho bounce of a virtual rev cut at 4.5k tonight.
It happens randomly, but it is especially apparent on 4th gear.
FUCK the product.
No choice.
Will be filing the consumer tribunal claims tomorrow instead of next week.
It happens randomly, but it is especially apparent on 4th gear.
FUCK the product.
No choice.
Will be filing the consumer tribunal claims tomorrow instead of next week.
07 December 2010
Decided
As mentioned before here, my patience has ran out.
I am now in the midst of collecting the paper work necessary to begin officially filing a claim with the Consumer Tribunal of Malaysia.
The car runs so fucked up that I begin to wonder why am I ever remotely interested in this piece of shit previously.
I can't wait for the day where I swap the cams back to stock.
Damn........
I am now in the midst of collecting the paper work necessary to begin officially filing a claim with the Consumer Tribunal of Malaysia.
The car runs so fucked up that I begin to wonder why am I ever remotely interested in this piece of shit previously.
I can't wait for the day where I swap the cams back to stock.
Damn........
04 December 2010
The Result is out
The result is out.
Red is my stock cam profile.
Blue is the Works Performance Cam without dyno tuning.
Green is the Works Performance Cam with on-dyno tuning.
What say you guys?
A performance cam putting out way lesser power then a stock cam?
Hmm...
Cams problem or engine problem now?
Just for everyone's information, the engine has just only been rebuild.
:)
If it is not clear let me know and I will re-upload a clearer version.
Red is my stock cam profile.
Blue is the Works Performance Cam without dyno tuning.
Green is the Works Performance Cam with on-dyno tuning.
What say you guys?
A performance cam putting out way lesser power then a stock cam?
Hmm...
Cams problem or engine problem now?
Just for everyone's information, the engine has just only been rebuild.
:)
If it is not clear let me know and I will re-upload a clearer version.
29 November 2010
Cross my fingers...
So far everything seems fine.
Even after hard trial runs, the lights stays off.
It came on for all the wrong reasons (hopefully) which cleared off after some troubleshooting.
Hopefully I don't see this anymore for this case.
It take some getting used to especially taking off from standstill.
Some adjustment need to be done on how to take off smoothly.
On the highway run, I do not feel the urgency that I can feel before this went in.
Maybe the limited time that we have to tune?
Or is it the wrong settings?
I'm not sure but what I can be sure is that the next few days will be spent trying to get the best possible settings.
Now, lastly, is it possible to try and mask the sound and also try to get it to idle as smooth as possible?
Low profile ma....
Even after hard trial runs, the lights stays off.
It came on for all the wrong reasons (hopefully) which cleared off after some troubleshooting.
Hopefully I don't see this anymore for this case.
It take some getting used to especially taking off from standstill.
Some adjustment need to be done on how to take off smoothly.
On the highway run, I do not feel the urgency that I can feel before this went in.
Maybe the limited time that we have to tune?
Or is it the wrong settings?
I'm not sure but what I can be sure is that the next few days will be spent trying to get the best possible settings.
Now, lastly, is it possible to try and mask the sound and also try to get it to idle as smooth as possible?
Low profile ma....
27 November 2010
A surprised..
A surprised indeed.
Been expecting about 117 to 118 region after rebuild but i got 120.
The torque is at a high 15.4 kgs
A look at the graph shown an improvement of 5% across the range.
Hmm....
Maybe it is worth it after all?
Been expecting about 117 to 118 region after rebuild but i got 120.
The torque is at a high 15.4 kgs
A look at the graph shown an improvement of 5% across the range.
Hmm....
Maybe it is worth it after all?
15 November 2010
[WTS] Heatshield Kit
I am looking to sell this now that I am no longer using this.
Any takers?
The whole thing going for RM 150.
What is in it?
- Custom Heat shield
- UTR Metal Flow Air Filter
You can contact me (KC) @ 012-3636750
Pictures of the item below.
Any takers?
The whole thing going for RM 150.
What is in it?
- Custom Heat shield
- UTR Metal Flow Air Filter
You can contact me (KC) @ 012-3636750
Pictures of the item below.
12 November 2010
.... zzzz .....
I am one elbow joint away.
Chisz...
Where is that damn elbow joint?
Where did I put it?
It's not funny having to search 8000 sq feet for this.
ZzzzzZ !!
Chisz...
Where is that damn elbow joint?
Where did I put it?
It's not funny having to search 8000 sq feet for this.
ZzzzzZ !!
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