The car involved is a Passat B7. A Passat B7 that is locally assembled in Malaysia with a 1.8L turbo-charged engine with a rated 160PS and 250NM output stock from factory. And yes, it has a DQ200 (DSG7) gearbox mated to it.
So what we have done to the car is the usual full custom exhaust system, upgraded coil packs, upgraded spark plugs, upgraded the factory turbos, upgraded the stock intercooler, junked the factory intake and replaced it with an APR intake kit and not to mentioned we have a stage 3 Project'A map done to the car.
With all the mods and fine-tuning to the engine mapping done, we finally arrived at this figures below.
We managed to push the Passat to a final figures of 284PS and 321NM on wheels.
This is done with a fuel rating of RON97.
In case anyone has been wondering of the durability, this car has been running around town since 5th of May 2014 till now without issues. Total stock gearbox with stock clutch pack.
On top of being daily driven, this car has also seen the usual mountain road runs of Ulu Yam and Genting Highlands on an almost bi-weekly basis. Not to mention too the usual high-speed runs on the highways around the country.
A closing note:
This is by no means an absolute fact about DSG7. This is purely based on the personal experience that me and my friend have playing around with the "supposedly fragile" DSG7.
Mod at your own risk.
Updated:
I've gotten the green light to reveal the tuner.
This Passat is running on a stage 3 Project'A map.
More info on the stage 3 output here.
0-100kph and Sepang track time?
ReplyDelete0-100 kph.. did not test... but i expect it to be around 6.5 seconds +/-
ReplyDeleteand no sepang timing yet..
Thank you for the reply. Can you update more on the Stage2+ Passat? Like pictures of the car and brand of the modded items.
ReplyDeleteThe car is just like a B7 passat... there is no bodykit what so ever... its the standard passat look..
ReplyDeleteMake it as sleeper look as possible...
I will ask my friend and see if it is possible to share out the modded items..
Looking forward to your next writeup
ReplyDeleteThanks for sharing a very interesting found regarding to the gearbox maximum torque limit. I am looking forward to hear about the clutch/gearbox in long term.
ReplyDeleteThe gearbox and the clutch is still holding up fine to date... so i think this should not be of a worry anymore if the car is bone stock standard...
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DeleteThat's awesome dude! Im impressed, and glad to see the gearbox is holding just fine. I have an A3 8V 1.8t with APR STAGE 2 (Catless downpipe and injen intake).. but from time to time Im hitting soft limp mode. I thought it was the gearbox torque limit protecting, but know I think is more of an ECU thing.
ReplyDeletemaybe you can try to get a readout of your existing ECU map and have a look at it again...
Deletesoft limp mode is more towards ECU instead of gearbox...
Howdo. Where did you get the info about 360Nm?
ReplyDeleteI am sorry that I could not share exactly how I got this information with you but it is safe to say that I got this reading from the gearbox controller itself.
DeleteHope that is more than enough hint.
Cheers - I've used vagcom in the past.
DeleteThe gearbox itself might be rated to that higher value but I wonder about the clutch packs themselves.
If you do constant sudden hard acceleration from standstill, you will subject the clutch packs to accelerated wear and tear.
DeleteI believe (based on my experience too) that if you do in-gear acceleration, the clutch pack will hold up just fine.
How many kilometers/miles does the gearbox go since remapping?
ReplyDeleteThe gearbox has seen about 25k km since remapping.
DeleteHave you done dgs tunning?
ReplyDeletenope... my DSG software is stock.
Deleteso is the DSG software of the Passat in this post...
321NM is really low torque for this Gearbox, my SEAT Ibiza 1.4 TSI Stage 3 has 400nm (wheels) and i have a few 1.8 TSI gen 2 K04 with 410nm (wheels) and gen3 with 400nm, no problems. But you need a custome remap on gearbox to avoid clutch slip, thats the only problem with too much torque on this gearbox.
ReplyDeletePD: Torque limit on gearbox is 400nm (crank) 340nm at wheels, so you need a remap to avoid this limit. Good Luck
321NM is really low torque for this Gearbox, my SEAT Ibiza 1.4 TSI Stage 3 has 400nm (wheels) and i have a few 1.8 TSI gen 2 K04 with 410nm (wheels) and gen3 with 400nm, no problems. But you need a custome remap on gearbox to avoid clutch slip, thats the only problem with too much torque on this gearbox.
ReplyDeletePD: Torque limit on gearbox is 400nm (crank) 340nm at wheels, so you need a remap to avoid this limit. Good Luck
How do you really know if its clutch slip or a DSG Problem?, here is my story, i have a Seat Leon 1.8T DSG7, after like 10K Km with APR Stage 1, i start to feel a kick only when shifting from 5th to 6th gear at full gas, when it goes down i don't feel it and when driving normally, it shifts with out a kick. I change to factory de ECU and i never feel the kick even driving hard so it's only when it has the Stage 1 ECU remap. have you got this kick on the cars you mention?, is it normal or i need to worry hehe.
DeleteI experience the same thing. Maybe is APR software related.
DeleteI agree with you. I know to much people who are complaining about clutchslip after remap. If you tune the car, you need to fine tune the DSG to. It is important to increase the torque limiter in the DSG software including the gear changing pressure to get better grip on the clutch.
ReplyDeleteI´ve found this dqoo tuning solution, for all those who are interested. Haven´t tried it though:
Deletehttps://www.vividracing.com/catalog/tuned-dsg-stronic-flash-audi-euro-dq200-p-151462369.html
I have a 2018 Polo 1.0 115ps with DSG7, and I was thinking about byuing a RaceChip. It promises "+16 HP (+12 kW) + 50 Nm.". Do you think it will be safe for Engine and DSG? I'm about worried about the gearbox breaking down.
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